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Subscribe to RSSGeneral John R. Allen, commander of international forces in Afghanistan, condemned the Taliban's use of children as suicide bombers, after two 10-year-olds were arrested with explosive vests for the second time.
The commander of the International Security Assistance Force, said in a statement emailed to reporters on Tuesday that the "cold tactic" was "utterly despicable." ISAF also issued a statement expressing deep regret over the deaths of several young Afghans in an air attack in Kapisa province last week.
The AFP news agency reported Monday that the two children were arrested last week.
A Kandahar province spokesman, Zalmai Ayubi, said they and three other militants were "planning an attack on Afghan and international forces in Kandahar." Ayubi said they were found with two vests full of explosives.
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AFP said the 10-year-olds were also found with explosive vests and arrested in August last year. They and 18 other children detained at that time subsequently received a pardon from Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
"The cold tactic of using any human being -- especially children -- to conduct suicide attacks is utterly despicable, and I denounce these tactics," Allen said in the statement.
"In now promoting child-suicide attacks, the insurgency have forfeited any remaining support they may have had with the people of Afghanistan," he added. "We stand side by side with the Afghan people to do everything we can to eliminate suicide bombers of any age from the cities, towns and villages throughout the country."
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Reuters reported Monday that international forces had found the bodies of dead children in Giawa, Kapisa province. Afghan government officials showed gruesome photographs of eight dead boys, and said seven of them had been aged between six and 14, while one had been around 18 years old.
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They were bombed twice while herding sheep in heavy snow and lighting a fire to keep warm, they said.
"My command's mission is to protect the civilian people of Afghanistan," Allen said in the other statement. "I take very seriously the loss of every Afghan life. We will continue to do all we can to ensure the safety of the Afghan population."
Boy told he would be 'safe'
AFP reported that two 10-year-olds had gone to Pakistan after they were released following their first arrest. There they were trained how to carry out suicide atacks, then sent back to Afghanistan.
A statement from Kandahar officials sent to AFP contained quoted attributed to the two boys, named as Azizullah and Nasibullah.
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Azizullah was quoted as saying militants had told him he "would be safe after conducting a suicide attack."
He added that he had also been told that when "Americans fire at you ... they will not be able to hit you."
Nasibullah described his instructions from the Taliban in the statement.
"The Taliban forced me to fire a Kalashnikov ... I was scared at first. They also taught me how to blow my vest, they showed me how to press the button in my hand," he said.
"They then brought me to the city, asked me to sit on the side of the road and wait for foreign forces to come ... I was there when two police came and arrested me."
Reuters contributed to this report.
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"after two 10-year-olds were arrested with explosive vests for the second time."
Gen is taking lots of time to understand the guerrilla warfare waged by Islamic militants!
When women with burkah/niqab have been used for suicide bombings, what prevents them from using children?
NATO forces are not able defeat these Islamic militants, as they get Paki support and operate using Paki bases.
Also half of NATO forces deaths are due to Pakis.
Hope military Gens' will soon come to conclusion: bomb Paki Islamic militant support areas to ground and reduce losses of NATO forces soldiers.
The general is WRONG! ''"In now promoting child-suicide attacks, the insurgency have forfeited any remaining support they may have had with the people of Afghanistan," I believe that most muslims support and condone this type of behaviour {martyr} and that it is admired throughout the muslim world! Yes a GIFT FROM MOHAMMED!
Very SAD!.. I think you are RIGHT!... You can not reason with a MAD DOG!... They just need to be PUT DOWN!... Think this is BAD!, Waite until IRAN gets the Bomb!.. Then you will see KILLING ON A WHOLESALE SCALE!....
LiFe&LiBeRtY.defender wrote:
"Most Muslims?" Not even close. These are thugs. We have thugs and criminals in the U.S. too, but that doesn't make the majority of people in the U.S., criminals. Think beyond the propaganda and those who make the news once in awhile. Because you'll rarely if ever see a story written about Muslims who are against the war, and who, like most sane people in the world, want peace... even though they're in the majority... it's just not a headliner.
Keep in mind that even Muslim (and other) fanatics have access to the Internet. Is this one of the prices of Freedom then? The spread of terrorism and slanted and unsubstantiated propaganda rhetoric under fictitious names?
Dr. Cat your opinion of muslims is valid as is mine. Mine is based on news reports over the years that have shown that suicide bombers are revered and glorified in the Islamic areas of asia amd the middle east.Maybe your experience among muslims in that area of the world is different than mine? Can you tell us more? Do you find that the muslims in afghanistan are becoming more enlightened and progressive?
BCOHIO wrote:
Yes Iran is so scary. They're going to kill everyone. (On a wholesale scale, no less.) Our stockpiles of nukes or those of Russia and China's and Europe's and (oh never mind) will be no match for them, let alone be a deterrent. We might as well all just kill ourselves now. Blah blah blah.
@LiFe&LiBeRtY
My experience is real-world experience, and comes from knowing and working with Muslims that come from many different backgrounds. If you took what the news says at face value, and never left your home to see otherwise, you'd think the United States was full of criminals and killers, too. The news focuses on the bad. That's what sells. I've never met a Muslim who was like, or even thought like the criminals in the Taliban you read about. I'm not saying they're not out there, but with over a million Muslims in the U.S., why aren't there at least a few suicide bombings here every day? At least one every month or so? You would think, if they want to kill us so badly, that bombings would be happening at malls across America every day. And yet, (surprise), they aren't. Are the Muslims in the U.S. somehow different than Muslims in other countries? Or maybe they're just lazy, or too busy watching TV? Anyway, I think, or hope, you see my point. If Muslims were as evil as many Americans think they are, we'd be seeing a lot more acts of violence here. Muslims surely have the numbers to do damage in the United States, if they wanted to, anyway. In the U.S., you're more likely to read about some guy who kills his kids. Not "evil" Muslims.
If Taliban causes the deaths of children it's, "utterly despicable."
If NATO causes the deaths of children it's, "collateral damage."
Dr. Cat I also do not think American muslims are the same as those in the middle east and asia,more educated and westernized. I just wish we would here more from them on these type of issues. They seem to be able to protest and raise a storm when a corporate sponsor withdraws from a muslim reality show or when a catholic university doesn't bow down. So until american muslims rise up en masse to condemn the backwardness of their own religion I will leave it up to you Dr. Cat to defend Islam.
LiFe, most Americans, Christian or otherwise, do not support the right-wing Christian agenda, and there's no reason to believe most Muslims support the right-wing Muslim agenda.
LiFe&LiBeRtY.defender wrote:
I'm not defending Islam, I'm defending people. You asked if people in Afghanistan were becoming more enlightened. And yet, you seem to be lacking the same enlightenment you're questioning, if you don't understand what I mean by my first sentence. In any event, you'll never gain enlightenment from the "news reports" you base your beliefs on. Enlightenment comes from experience, reflection, and a flexibility in thinking. One source, and one single narrow viewpoint won't get you there.
Zheng He...thanks for distinguishing between someone intentionally causing the death of an innocent child and one dying unintentionally. NATO troops are required to protect innocent civilians to the point they put their own lives in added danger. Taliban doesn't care about civilians. Remember, the Taliban are the people (term used very loosely) who murdered a young girl in cold blood in front of a stadium full of people because her vale fell off in public. Can you cite any NATO troops doing anything close to that as part of their official mission?
Dr. Cat now your backing off your defense of Islam and attacking me? You do understand that a muslim is a follower of Islam so yes it is ok you are defending Islam why are you backing away? I say it is a backwards intolerant ideology and you it seems compelled to defend Islam,so what is it that you Dr. Cat admire most about Islam?
What scum. They make Vlad the Impaler look sane and utterly justified in his actions.
They're just labels, LiFe. No need to get hung up on them. I might admire and/or like someone who happens to be Christian, but that doesn't mean I have to come up with a reason to admire or like their religion, as well. The same goes for the Muslim religion, or any other religion for that matter. People are just people, regardless of the 'labels' they acquire through life. It's always the minority though, the ones who cause trouble, that get all the attention. And in the case of Muslims, that minority makes people like yourself think that all of them must be like that. There's nothing new there. 'Us and them' thinking is as old as it gets. And it allows people the added luxury of not having to think too hard about things, as well.
In a war, when you don't have helicopter gunships, multimillion dollar missiles, armed drones, and other super expensive military hardware, you use what you have. The good general supports US military machine which has no business being in Afghanistan any more. I'm not sure who is more 'utterly despicable'... both side brainwash their soldiers into believing that murder and mayhem they perpetrate is 'for the good cause'...
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy and the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have resulted in a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Plenty of blood has been spilled throuhout history by Christians and their "interpretation" of the Bible but nowhere does it say to slaughter innocents in the manner the Quaran does.
Hey, welcome to the religion of peace!!!
my brother saw first hand the aftermath of:
- Taliban shooting a 5 year old boy in the head in a manner that kept him alive with the hopes of luring a medical chopper into an ambush.
- Taliban taking all children in a small village out into the street and sawing their heads off w/ shoelaces so parents wouldn't cooperate with NATO forces.
- 2 Taliban raping an infant and a 4 year old. Kids made too much noise put up too much off a fight so they shot them so they could finish the job.
These scum are animals...I have no problem with killing them wholesale.
thank you Brian . for telling the public what that scum has done.
never send a kid... to do a drones work...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkvD7-u7y8
When one is of the 'opinion' that two plus two equals six, the 'opinion' is not valid.
These so-called 'talibs' are nothing but muharibun who seek to rip apart the fabric of their society to gain dictatorial power for their own evil use. They pervert children, turn children into murderers of the innocent, convince the children to commit suicide, and then turn around and blame God for their own perverted blood lust.
They will be judged on the last day. They would do well to recant their evil ways before they die.
brian-1077790
How the f could a helicopter see a 5 year old from the sky and discern between a real wound and a false one? So why would they bother with a real one? And, was your brother a part of the crew?
Do you honestly believe shoelace can cut threw bone? And what was your brother doing while he was watching this? Calling in for air support?
And what was he doing while witnessing the alleged child rape?
There are plenty of war crimes that happen every day, so you don't have to make them up. And if you honestly heard these stories, try to engage your brain next time.
Concerning the dialogue between Dr. Cat and LiFe&LiBeRtY.defender: I'm afraid I must side with LiFe on his statement that Muslims here in the US always seem to rise up to protest en-masse over things that seem to involve their rights being eroded (like the removal of certain sponsorship of a Muslim TV show being the example provided) yet never protest the despicable terrorist activities carried out in the name of Islam. LiFe is correct. Of all the things they SHOULD protest, one would expect it to be the very thing that is CAUSING them to lose those rights in the first place. But they never do. I think it's because their religion itself CALLS for them to rise up against the infidel and lie and even kill him if he doesn't bow down and accept the rule of Islam, and so they secretly admire what these terrorists are doing, and will not speak out against them. That is the very reason they are not trusted anywhere, even though they are not actively doing harm themselves. Because this is not a war of patriotism, country versus country, but one of religion, Islam versus Infidels (everybody else), and is therefore not about love of country, but about religious commandments (or what you believe your God is telling you to do). I believe that it is their very silence that is doing them the most harm to their standing in this country and the world. Everyone knows very well that, in THIS country at least, they could EASILY speak out against what the terrorists are doing with fear of reprisals, but they don't. THAT is the real reason Muslims are not trusted.
Amen Steel...well spoken. Remember " he who stands by and does nothing bears the same guilt as the perpetrator"...Every American and European should accost every muslim and demand they act to stop terrorism. ( but of course we all know they will do nothing, only quietly agree with the hate and killing)
Observer, he said that his brother saw 'the aftermath of'. Learn to read and then we'll talk.
Hope most know about nukes of Pakistan. And they are most dangerous as Pakistan is going to have bloody civil wars like Iraq.
Can anyone say: who will control nukes?
So Dr. Cat. if most muslims think that this is wrong why do we read stories like this first in MSNBC and wy haven't we heard any uproar from CAIR "Council on American-Islamic Relations".
They sure have an opinion that can be heard when Americans protest about construction of a mosque near ground zero.
I'll tell you why becaus they do feel this is within the teachings of the Koran.
It's a sign that we are winning and have them pinned down. Their recruiting is down and their leaders are dying by or hiding from the US drones. We have dried up their funding.
With Islam, no one is safe. Call it what it is; A terrorist organization.
These boys will probably be forced into prostitution as "dancing boys"
Ignorant much?
It is a sad day and a sign of desperation when a society is willing to sacrifice its posterity to get their point across. In a war such as this one there will be no winners only losers on both sides. When will we pull out and leave them to their own devices of destroying each other and not ours? This does demonstrate a society that has digressed to a savage state of mind.
Wabbajack...
Maybe not all muslims are terrorists but so far, all the terrorists have been muslim...just sayin'
ever heard of the IRA,red brigade,or the KKK?
not all terrorist are muslim.
What can you say! These people are INSANE X 10
We need to get the world to crush these.
@cantakenomore:
Islam is prominent in the Middle East, this much is true. Many terrorists have been churned out from the Middle East. This is also true. The fact that so many terrorists have spawned from the Middle East and the fact that Islam is the main religion over there does NOT make Islam a religion based upon terrorism. If that's the case, then Christianity should be taking major heat for so many neo-nazis hiding behind the bible and claiming that god wants them to strike down all jews, blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. As d.a. stated below you, not ALL terrorists are muslim. The fact that so much terrorism occurs in the Middle East doesn't help Islam's reputation due the media and political agendas, but in the end, Islam is more or less the same in concept as Christianity and Judaism. It's also about the same age as those two aforementioned.
Just sayin'.
wabb,
really? does your progressive ideals make you also demand the destruction of the constitution? are you defending islam because you see the good in sharia law? the good like women's oppression? like the fact that anyone that does not follow the teachings of mohamad is an enemy?(not just a another way of life, but an enemy to be destroyed).
yes, terrorist actions have been used by non-muslims, but the fact that it has become the basic tool of the islamic push toward dominance on the world stage, does make it a religion based on terrorism. of all the terrorist activities worldwide, islam claims the majority overwhelmingly.
your sympathetic views of islam, though not isolated, is actually allowing it's escalation.
S.Ulmer,
you seem to enjoy dropping your own "fill in the blank" style implications. I stated nothing regarding the constitution and if you are merely another of the various "bandwagon patriots" floating around these forums then feel free to ignore my input for I shall have no part in your games. So many people assume that Islam encourages and promotes violence yet I doubt they even know what they speak of. I actually lived in Egypt for a few years of my childhood and none of what the majority of these people commenting claim to take place ever did. Muslims are raised to be charitable, pray, fast for an entire month, and make at least one pilgrimage to Mecca. I will not support media driven intolerance nor dignify anyone else's. Good day.
yet you avoid the point, sharia law dictates all I have stated, and you support that. you do support the progressive media's intolerance of non-muslim intolerance. the fact that the muslim brotherhood is behind the "freedom" revolts across the middle east, and the doctrines of that sharia law are at it's core does not bother you, is on you. it bothers a lot of us, and at its fudamental base, is a violation of the right to worship as seen in the constitution. you probly support the obamanations forced healthcare, and it's direct challenge to the catholic church.
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39"
Is this the charity you were speaking of. Just a few examples.
And lest I forget, Muslims also practice their religion, the very same that they base their entire lives upon, while taking flak from the rest of the world for all the insanity and chaos that madmen who claim to be under the banner of Islam cause. But of course, the rest of the religions can't possibly be at fault seeing as how Islam is under media microscopes 24/7. Christianity is abundant with intolerance, Catholicism can't seem to figure out which way is up (yet know how to touch little boys and get away with it), and the rest of the religions seem to just be shrugged off. If you truly feel that your words are true, get off your own hide and take action. Otherwise, you go ahead and continue to have fun hiding behind your computer screen.
i fix'n to make a pilgrimage... to the fast food place...mecca donalds...
@J.Scott-3677762:
I never stated Islam was perfect. None of the religions are. Most original texts bear some sort of weight to ensure conformity to each religion. Have you ever read the Old Testament of the Christian Bible? There is some pretty graphic content in there as well, but it's okay. Obviously your examples excuse you and others to persecute people who actually try to help their fellow man. I suppose the next example you're going to whip out involves the Holy Wars and how the Christians were justified in the Crusades? Go for gold skippy.
@plain bob: Beware the special sauce. It's special for a reason, none of them medically beneficial.
@dumbass american-- got to laugh the ira ? On 25 September 2005, international weapons inspectors supervised the full disarmament of the IRA . the red brigade ?virtually ceased to exist as a meaningful entity by the end of 1988 and the kkk has been quite since the patriot act
I'm not saying blood hasn't been spilled on both sides of religion because it has and religion is purely a manmade concept and we both know mankind is hopelessly flawed.
But nowhere in the Bible does it go into the extremes of violence as does the Quaran making it easy for religious fanatics to interpret it just as it is written and carry out senseless violence against innocents.
Fanatics have existed on all fronts but I believe we as a society and humanity in general has evolved to a point where we don't kill people in the name of god anymore. Most Muslims have gotten to this point but their "fanatics" haven't and that is a fact.
Who is it you're saying is trying to help their fellow man? The crusades were fought on both fronts for the exact same parcel of land they are still fighting over today 1000 years later. Only they are fighting a whole different race of people, the Jews. Who is the common denominator in that argument?
They’ll never be at peace and they, the Muslim fanatics, will drag the entire planet down with them in the name of Allah.
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
This is what Muhammed wrote. What was is Jesus said? Go figure.
A bunch of cowards! Now they're teaching children how to do this, God will have his way with all of you Taliban scum when you're all rotting in hell. Also is this the same Taliban that wants to take their country back? Way to show us that you can lead Afghanistan again, I guess the education system of Afghanistan is going to be one of the best in the world.
You don't see the, "My God's better than your God" thing at all, so we keep avenging the death of some goat 5000 years ago.
Must be running out of people over 18 lol.
Welcome to the twisted world of Islam, and then we have Americans who say lets not jump to conclusions with military response reguarding issues in the strait of hormus. Do these people realy beleave that this kind of mind would not detonate dirty bombs in our citys. I hope the chain of events leads America to smight the insanity that we find ourselves confronted with , These people have no limits to thair ignorance or twisted ambitions.It's my beleaf that the sooner we deal with them the better we secure the safety of our children and all concerned nations.
Calling the entire world of Islam, "twisted," is like saying every single person who lives in L.A. is a gang member.
Smoke another one!, then go lay down you need a rest!...
to dr. cat - The entire world of Islam is T W I S T E D!!!! When this type of behavior is NOT condemned by EVERY living muslim - they are a twisted distorted group of people! They are letting their own FUTURE as a people be blown up. The mothers of islam should rise up. But sadly they will not.
They have also used mentally challenged people (women) before also. SO YES they are
T W I S T E D.
DOC- stop apologizing for Islam- it's a terrorist cult pure and simple. The basic tenents of Islam REQUIRE that a "good" Muslim kill the infidel. The quiet Muslims we all talk about in here say nothing about the terrorists because to do so makes them a "bad" Muslim, and they do not want to be rejected by the group.
You may have spent some time with them, but you sure didn't learn much.
Considering that there are 64,000,000 registered gun owners in the U.S., I'd be quiet too if I thought my neighbor was going to start a "jihad" against me for getting out of line.
One of the great things about America is that we have a great patience with other peoples; we know to do so. Liberals want to give the whole country away in the name of "diversity" , but will be the first to complain about their beliefs being trod upon.
I think that at some point both of those groups will have to be careful, because if the cults pull too big an attack, those gun owners are gonna start thinking they can do better to solve the problem than the do-nothing feds. The PC "anything goes" BS will end at that point.
You may have spent some time with them, but you sure didn't learn much.
Ritdog-908299 wrote:
I still spend time with them. None of them would agree with what you're saying. They all speak badly of what's going on, and are worried for their families that may still be living there. I've known many of them since the '80s, working in the tech industry, so I think I know that they're being truthful with me after this much time, and I certainly know them a lot better than you do.
Anyway, this is what troubles me. I'm not here to defend them; they don't need that. But what I'm trying (in vain it appears) to do is get this B.S. about them to stop. You and others believe that it's required of them to kill the infidel. Well, it's been 25 years, and none have even given me so much as a paper cut yet, terrifying as the thought of that is.
Believe it or not, they're just normal people. They make a good living to provide for their families. And they have GREAT family ties. I'm invited to their homes for dinner regularly. Why would they want to spoil all of that by doing something stupid? The answer is, they don't. Plain and simple, they aren't like the minority of loonies you read about in articles such as this one. They're good and generous people. Try going to Iran sometime. (Or at least read one of the many books of Americans who have legally gone there.) I think it would open your eyes as to how wrong you are.
to Dr Cat - so you've had dinner there from people who have 'outsourced' American jobs AND you've read a book. Wow you are good! Tell us more we should know. I am sure the other people who flew planes into buildings would of been concerned 'normal' also by friends and family - right up until they got on a west bound jet!
THEY - muslims - need to stop this themselves! If they want to succeed as a nation - stop this NOW! Hands up - who thinks this will happen?
Texas, they want it to happen. Why do you think there is so much turmoil in the Middle East? A lot of people are getting sick of the leaders in charge there. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran was next. Hopefully it will happen. The whole region needs leadership change, for the better. But that change will be stifled if a war occurs between the U.S./Israel and Iran. The people of Iran aren't our enemy. Far from it. But they will be, if we go to war against them.
A historical footnote on the child suicide bomber. The first known child suicide bomber was a 12 year old Iranian boy during the Iraq-Iran War. As the story has been told, the boy picked up two hand grenades, headed toward an Iraqi tank, and pulled the pins in an attempt to blow up the Iraqi tank. The tank was not blown up, but lost in the story is that Iraq pulled out of Iranian territory a short time later; they were short on firepower, staring a human tidal wave known as Basij volunteers right in the face, and knew they would be overwhelmed if they did not retreat. Regardless of what you believe on the use of child fighters, history has shown that child fighters, especially child fighters willing to fight to the death, are a very effective psychological weapon. You look at your own kid a little differently; you picture him one on one with this kid. You question whether your kid is made of something that can match this kid or if your kid is just going to squat like a bitchdog; you then take a long hard look at the youngest segments of your country's population and wonder the same thing.
rodentwarrior
Nice bit of work, you must be a history buff on that part of the world. To me south east Asia comes to mind. The V.C. and the N.V.A. also used children as suicide bombers in NAM. The thing not mentioned is what that tactic does to an opposing enemy who has been ordered to drop the hammer on the kid. War is never fair nor just. It is just a dirty business.
bob
Absolute cowardice. Getting others to kill themselves so you can put off meeting your Virgins in the promised land is weak. Getting kids to do so is absolute Cowardice. These kids have their whole lives ahead of them while the dooshbags sending them back into Afghanistan with bomb vests is proving just how much of an Ally Pakistan isn't. Pakistan is treading on some very loose ground here an it's about to cost them considering we have troops near enough to make the kind of statement they really don't want us to make. India isn't exactly on the greatest of terms with them an I doubt anyone would come to their aid. The government of Iran would like nothing more than for us to do their dirty work and clear those dirtbags out. Sad cause I know some very nice Pakistanis here in the US. They're good people. It's too bad their government cannot play by the rules. Anyone that doubts that Pakistan is two-faced only need look at the news occasionally. Their own soldiers fired on our Ambassador's security team. Hey Pakistan, send your delegate here and see how warm a reception they get. Nobody HERE will fire on them but I bet there are plenty of people who would love nothing more than dealing out some "what comes round goes round" to prove a point.
Not to Worry!, This will all stop just as soon as IRAN get's It's NUKES UP AND RUNNING!... Good job Obammy!... Then Obammy can say he SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN!...
Racist much you POS?
Oh yeah, everything is O's fault.
What part of that was racist? The fact that he doesn't like Obama?
i saw nothing racist in that. Some people want to see racism. so that is what they see.
Too bad the Taliban are such cowards that they use precious children to do their dirty work. Why don't they come out and do the jobs themselves so they can kill each other and leave the children alone.?
It isn't just the Afghan,s the same sort of stupidity is also found among the Palestinians,Muslims teaching their children that to die in the name of their sick religion is not a new phenomenon. Whats really notable is the reluctance of the so called good Muslims to even speak out against it.
Using children for your dirty war is the ultimate low. Religions get misused all over the world. Nobody knows if there is a God or not. If there is one, he has a very sick sense of humor. Children believe about anything you tell them. How would they know that those who are the 'all-knowing' grown-ups betray them so badly!? It is a very sad world we live in, a world that rewards greed and lies with $, a world devided in masters and slaves, east or west, north or south.
The taliban like the North Vietnamese are using children be cause it is against our moral code to kill a child. The taliban people have no morals look what they did to that country when they took over the government, destroyed everything that was sacred to the Afgan people. The taliban need to be exterminated like a bad vermin. If not they will come after Americans where ever they go. The taliban destroyed Afganistan like the politicians are destroying America. The world is half bad and half good trouble is the bad hide among the good so its hard to eliminate them. Maybe someday a 1000 years from now there will be peace for allpeo
People all over the U.S. shout, scream, and otherwise demand that we pull out of Afghanistan, Iraq, and other parts of the world. "This isn't our war", "We shouldn't be there"... but then who is going to stop these terrorists from exploiting those people? Surely not their own governments who PROTECT terrorists.
Citizens here are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when we pull out of foreign nations and not only does it still go on there, but then comes to our shores. Then who will be screaming for us to stop the war?
J. Shields, the war has already come to our shores, in the form of a country that is near bankruptcy. This isn't our war. But it is (or was) our money.
Meanwhile, without lifting a finger, Russia and China are sitting back watching us destroy ourselves. They must be enjoying the show, much as we would be, if they were making the same mistakes.
J
Take a look at VIET NAM today. We pulled out from there in the 70's. Now look at that country. It is peaceful, prosperous and their standard of living has vastly improved over the years. Matter of fact they export things to us. I have several items of furniture in my home that were made there.
The world doesn't need us to take care of it.
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I can understand the rage that people have when reading the stories about children being used as suicide bombers. Are you really surprised by this? Let's be honest here. How do you expect animals to behave? We are not dealing with people who can be rationalized with. We are dealing with a barbaric mentality which still lives by the code of the dark ages and wants to enforce that ideology upon today's society by any means available.
Islams doctrine demands that the entire world submits to muslim rule and they will use all methods at their disposal to achieve this goal even if it means the murder of young children. The koran says "muslims are the greatest of people". Does this sound familiar to any of you? Can you think of any other group who made the same statement some 70 years ago?? I'll give you a hint. They wore black jack boots and had swastikas on their arms.
Some people claim that the act of self sacrifice i.e. suicide bombing is not found in islam. Guess again. The koran says that any muslim who dies for the cause of advancing islam goes straight to paradise. To muslims, this is the greatest sacrifice imaginable and glory awaits him who kills himself AND takes the lives of non muslims with him. I've heard people say that such behavior is not supported by the majority of muslims. True, many muslims shudder at the idea of suicide bombers but they cannot remove themselves from this action because it's a part of the muslim faith. Dying for islam is a part of the doctrine and they can't remove it from their faith any more than they can remove their own head and continue to live.
We can pull out of Afghanistan today but tomorrow these same lunatic bombers will be looking for ways to bring the war here to our homes and that is their objective. We can either fight them over there or we can fight them over here. Keep something in mind, they (muslim extremists) are not coming to America. They are already here! We can continue to fight or they start killing your families. They only option we have is to eradicate them completely or they will do it to us. Which option do you prefer now?
Simon,
Excellent, Bravo you are in the mix with us over here. Sad thing is Americans will not budge unless they see their kids wearing the bomb for isalm. I commented on Dr. Cats writing this is what you're up against, stupidity, liberal marxist govt schooling, obama and his followers, these people are programmed not to think for themselves. They are children and looking for the govt to tell them what to do. They are cannon fodder and for the rest of us we will fight. And win.
Mike in Afghanistan
Mike.
I just read your posting and when I read the last line in your letter, "Mike in Afghanistan", I shuddered. I hope that whatever you're doing there keeps you and others safe and you will be out asap.
Take care.
Lets kill everybody. Go USA.
And Mexicans use their children as "anchor babies". What are they called?
Most Mexicans live in Mexico, and they call their babies sweetie, deary, precious, and even by the names they've given them.
Rick, I think Bullfighter's concern was about the Mexicans who live in the United States. Jus' a guess.
Dr. Cat is lost in her own mind. She has a reality that Walt Disney produced. Child bombers have been used in Iraq and here from day one. Cat is a stooge that just woke up because she seen something and read it. When you see a women on the roadside with her hand up and blood running down her face...you shoot becasue in the other hand she has a detonator. Dr. Cat is like so many just plain ass stupid Americans that have been no where, live in the mall, watch TV and "believe". She has the mind of a child and she has no way of knowing what reality really is. She has been fed the obama crap and the liberal crap and bought it all. Her day is like many others...coming like a frieght train, when the first bomb goes off in the mall or the school yard then she'll know somewhat. Cat is a liberal and will live in denial for years and years. Then blame something or someone thats she thinks will make sense. Islam will not stop, they will use anything to gain their religous strong hold. This my 3rd year in Afghanistan dont tell me what Ive seen.
Mike in Afghanistan
Si Vsi
Like you I am also a combat vet. Did a full year out in the boonies in NAM. I well under stand your anger, frustration and know all to well the things you have seen and done there. But you must come to understand like NAM your war is also one we can't win. It is a bitter pill to swallow. The rules of engagement are set against you and you must fight with one hand tied behind your back. THAT SUCKS !! But your war like mine is an unfair, unjust and a political war. And as any vet knows they are un-win able. Thank you for your service and may your guardian angel watch over you and your battle buddies.
Bob ( 1ID 1/28 inf reg )
Si Vis, I'm flattered you would go to so much trouble trying to figure me out. Although it's all pretty much inaccurate. Still, entertaining stuff!
Any person who is caught participating in this kind of exploitation of children, should have the following done to them: Take them out of the city, strap them in an explosive vest, then detonate. Unfortunately the use of children in war goes all the way back to the Childrens Crusades. So this is by no means a new story.
Intresting.
What can you expect from those freaks? They use women and children as shields, too
No do you know what's despicable the US being in Afghanistan, and the middle east.
I agree, let the Tallywhackers stomp those people into the dust until they've had enough and rise up and take their freedom. Freedom not earned is not appreciated. Look at us.
These lying bastards are so full of @!$%#. (Secret Report?) Bull @!$%#! Secret means you or these @!$%#heads wouldn't know about it in the first place. Fictional Secret Report I will buy. Made to miss lead the masses. Now I'm not saying everything coming out of the media is false, yet this was never secret. These bastards need to sensationalize everything.
Throughout history and in many cultures, children have been extensively involved in military campaigns
the USA has seen this before in vietnam
oh and hey Dr Cat I AM CALLING entire world of Islam, "twisted," AND YES every single person who lives in L.A. is a gang member A MEMBER THE AMERICAN GANG
I know everyone complains that the TSA pats down kids at the airport but if we did not then they would start sending kids with explosives on planes. This article is proof enough that they have no problem using kids as weapons. Before anyone jugdes, yes I have kids (4 & 6mo). No I would not like them to be patted down but I understand the need. I would prefer that they pat people down to protect my kids. I prefer them to be alive because someone got patted down (yes including a kid) VS being dead because someone did not.
In a war, when you don't have helicopter gunships, multimillion dollar missiles, armed drones, and other super expensive military hardware, you use what you have. The good general supports US military machine which has no business being in Afghanistan any more. I'm not sure who is more 'utterly despicable'...